Impeach Obama?
Personally, I don't think that threshold has been reached, but that isn't stopping some folks from calling for it, loudly. The second term curse appears to have caught up with Obama, with the NSA...
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No problem Flattop. I was tired last night or I probably would have blown it off. I am busy as hell at work which is a good thing but it makes me less accommodating then usualI'll give you one thing I...
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If republicans ever decide to investigate bank abuses and the Obama's administration response to them Ill support them 100%in that...
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maybe beating a dead horse but since we are talking about reasons for impeachment.... Gone but not...
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It's not that Clinton lied, it's that he did so under oath. Is that so hard to understand? If not, why is it ignored by those who defend him? Prosecutors tend to come down very hard on people who...
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Ref msg 46: Joel, you can't excuse what this administration is doing by referring to the previous administration. Two wrongs don't make a right, and saying something along the lines of "Well, she did...
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Maybe you should read it all the way through Flattop. It's pretty clear that Cheney had clear statements from the CIA disproving what he was saying in public. He continued to say it because his...
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Ref msg 46: Joel, you can't excuse what this administration is doing by referring to the previous administration. Two wrongs don't make a right, and saying something along the lines of "Well, she did...
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one last note on Clinton. As I recall he was punished with losing his law license among other things. The question was if that conviction was enough to unseat a president the majority of the voters...
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Joel wrote:Maybe you should read it all the way through Flattop. It's pretty clear that Cheney had clear statements from the CIA disproving what he was saying in public. He continued to say it because...
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JackPoynter wrote:And speaking of learning the wrong lesson, as FT does in msg 45, that's why I'm against allowing illegals into the country. Most of them are very nice people, who work hard, and...
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Joel wrote:Oh I absolutely agree but we are talking about reasons for impeachment not justifying actions and I was making the point it appears to me far worse things were done in the last...
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Joel wrote:one last note on Clinton. As I recall he was punished with losing his law license among other things. The question was if that conviction was enough to unseat a president the majority of...
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Ref msg 63:The law is the law. Making fine distinctions waters the lesson down. Calling illegal immigration a misdemeanor, and allowing people to get away with it, is exactly the same as breaking...
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Pick and choose? I do not believe that at all. I do not believe in letting anyone get away with anything. We just can't agree on what the penalty should be.The reasons for traffic laws are clear,...
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Btw, you're talking about morality lessons for children. I'm talking about lessons to avoid repeating the same mistakes. As the man said, those who do not learn (the right lessons) from history are...
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"Having those clear statements doesn't mean he believed them. If he wanted to believe something else, he would have rejected anything that did not support it."By those terms anyone can get away with...
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but you know you are right. Cheney didn't lie in a court of law so he didn't commit perjury (as if all judges rule the same way unswayed by political considerations ) Cheney lied to the public and I...
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joel, our justice system hinges at least partly on witnesses telling the truth. If witnesses can lie with impunity, then the system falls apart, and justice is denied. Lawyers lying under oath is...
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One possibility would be to include an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, to the oaths politicians take upon entering office, but no politician would ever go for it....
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